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Check
Out Shannon Wheeler’s New Comic: Too Much Coffee
Man at: www.toomuchcoffeeman.com
I
met with Shannon and his wife in a crowded downtown
bar and we discussed the future of TMCM over beers.
Shannon turned out to be thoughtful, soft spoken
and a far cry from the snaggle-toothed cynic depicted
as the artist behind TMCM in the comic. He is also
a proud father (of freshly minted twins) who immediately
whipped out photographs and drawings at the slightest
provocation. When I left they sent me home with
smiles and waves, a new drawing in my copy of the
Guide and a bumper sticker with a funny little caricature
of the infamous Ms. Lewinsky that said 'Monica Sucks.'
JEREMY RUSSELL -- Too Much Coffee Man is sometimes
a parody of comic book conventions and sometimes
a complicated comment on coffee production and modern
society, but who is he fundamentally or what makes
him real for you?
SHANNON WHEELER -- He's one of the voices in my
head. I hear different parts of myself having conversations
and I just write down what they say. Too Much Coffee
Man is there at that mental party.
JR -- And who else is at the party?
WHEELER -- Richard Nixon muttering something about
those damn Kennedys. He's a real party pooper.
JR -- Okay, what’s your favorite TMCM comic and
why?
WHEELER -- I really like the one-page comic where
TMCM is talking to his sidekick Ciggy in a cafe.
The characters were both superhero type characters,
but they were having a bitchy conversation. The
conversation was pretty real, but then it turns
out to be imagined. They're discussing imaginary
conversations then the whole conversation turns
out to be imaginary. I liked that cartoon because
it married the layout with the meaning of the strip.
The imaginary part of the conversation takes place
in a thought bubble over TMCM who sits at the bottom
of the page. You don't see this 'till the punch
line. And I like that the punch line is TMCM sitting
there saying nothing -- the punch is that Ciggy
isn't, and wasn't, sitting there next to him. It
had all the elements that I like in a comic, reality
and absurdity. And when it turned on its ear it
was such a clean and ironic turn. It was one of
the cartoons that made me laugh when I wrote it.
It’s also a moment that really takes advantage of
the comic page as a comic page. I feel like I usually
rely more on the dialog than on the visuals, that
it's really the dialog that makes the comic swing
or not, then I hustle to make the page graphically
interesting. But my favorite comics are the ones
where there's truly a marriage of the words and
pictures.
JR -- The humor that arises from visual/verbal blending
is what TMCM is all about. I mean, you often talk
about the fact that TMCM was invented as a “bad
visual pun,” which would act as a hook to draw an
audience to you, do you feel that you’ve succeeded?
Do you feel that the character allows you the flexibility
to work in the mode that you’d like?
WHEELER -- I've succeeded and failed. I think I've
hooked a lot of people that would never otherwise
have been hooked, but at the same time it's a lot
harder for me to garner the respect of my peers.
I'm looking at angst, alienation and anxiety, just
like most modern cartoonists, but I'm doing it in
a really goofy way. The character has afforded me
more flexibility than I ever thought possible. Each
time I work through a story I have the feeling that
it will be the last one that I'll ever come up with.
Then the voices start talking, one of them says
something that makes me chuckle and I have another
story that I feel the need to write.
JR -- Harder for your peers to respect you, what
makes you think that?
WHEELER -- I sit between parody and realism. The
people who do parody see my stuff as too serious
or something, and the people who are doing the real
'art' comics think that I'm pandering with my superhero-costumed
hero. I think they resent that I use a comic character
that has an obvious hook to sell my comics.
JR -- I understand you won a Hatch award for a Converse
Tennis Shoe Commercial and the Eisner Prize, which
is pretty prestigious.
WHEELER -- I'm not sure what the Hatch award is.
I didn't know that I'd won it 'till I got a gold
(colored) cup FedEx-ed to me. I'm so outside the
TV industry that it's a mystery. It might be a big
deal or maybe not. I really like it. I keep my change
in it.
I am involved in comics and the Eisner award is,
and was, a big deal to me. I really didn't expect
to win it. I know that everybody says that and secretly
they really do expect to win, but I really didn't
expect to win. My friends and I showed up late to
the ceremony. Drunk. And we sat in the back even
though the nominees are supposed to sit up front.
We were being snide and cynical just to get through
the emotional speed bump of not winning. I was up
against Rick Veitch, a 20-year comic veteran who
had just begun self-publishing an avant-garde diary
of his dreams and a couple other books that were
much more deserving than mine. I was blown away
when they said that I had won. Speechless.
JR -- Do you do other art than comics?
WHEELER
-- Not these days. I used to do little sculptures.
I'm way to busy now. Soon I'll be working on some
animations. I'll be putting them up on my website
as I do them. They'll mostly be for fun, but they'll
also be a way for me to cut my teeth on this whole
animation thing.
JR -- 'Animation thing' -- so, you'll be heading
into animation, then?
WHEELER -- I sold the rights for the year. We'll
see if we can make something happen. I've started
working on scripts. I'm having trouble seeing what
I want it to be. It's hard because I've worked to
expand the comic with each issue. I rethink what
I'm doing every time I do it. TV is very much about
repeating patterns. I'm not very good at thinking
in that way.
JR -- TMCM is a fluid strip, changing registers
often as I said earlier. It's always humorous, but
you allow it to range from goofy to philosophical,
from puns and gags to complicated ironic visual/verbal
plot twists, like when TMCM saves the universe,
but you skip all of the action and do so right after
a three-page fight with a Martian over a misunderstanding.
Given the complexity there, is there anything -
like a cartoon or a movie - that you particularly
want to see TMCM become or not become?
WHEELER -- I've gotten lots of offers for really
stupid things. Like Popeye, but with coffee. He's
in a fight, needs coffee to get his powers. Can't
get it. Almost gets it. Gets it. Kicks some butt
because he's so caffeinated. Yikes. That's what
I'm afraid of. People have sent me script ideas
like that. I mean, can you miss the point more?
I turn most of them down outright. Mad TV wanted
to use TMCM as a character and I wouldn't sell.
Then they did Stressed out Eric or something. I'm
told that it's similar to TMCM. But I'm sure it's
a total coincidence.
JR -- What kind of stories can we expect from the
future of TMCM?
WHEELER -- I have no idea. It's one idea at a time
with him. There are some stories outside the TMCM
universe that I'd like to do. TMCM is mainly situation-driven
and I'd like to try some plot-driven stuff.
I really want to write The Erotic Adventures of
Jesus Christ. I have a few scenes written with the
Last Supper, Christ coming back from the dead and
the Virgin Mary. I don't really have a venue to
publish this work, but I think it's funny.
JR
-- I know that you self publish via Adhesive Comics,
but what are you doing to promote yourself?
WHEELER -- Adhesive Comics started off as a collective
and slowly whittled itself down to a company of
one. Everyone else went off to get real jobs. I
was the only one deluded enough to keep doing comic
books.
People think I'm better at self-promotion than I
really am. I have a hard time saying that my cartoon
is successful because it's funny or good, so I say
that my success is a result of my self-promotion.
I send my comic out to get reviewed, and I try and
get my cartoons into newspapers. A big advantage
I have over other cartoonists is that I do newspaper
cartoons as well as comic books. I get a lot of
interest outside of the comic book clique. Then
I tell those fans to go to comic shops and buy my
comics.
I'm
still self-publishing, except for the book collections,
which I do through Dark Horse Comics. I started
working with DH almost a year ago. There are a few
advantages with working with DH. They have a great
design team. I think the production work they did
on the 'Guide for the Perplexed' is better than
I would have done on my own. They also have good
distribution into the book market. As my little
enterprise grows I need to figure out ways to delegate
the work. I'm overloaded.
I work in a studio now and I'm kind of the weird
one. It's good. I mean they all treat me very respectfully.
And it's interesting, but they all kind of wish
they could do what I do. Self-publish, I mean. But
I really didn't have any other choice. I could have
gone with a publisher. I had some offers, but I
really didn't want to do that. I've talked to too
many other artists who just complain that their
publisher isn't doing enough to push their work.
When I ask them why they're not doing it themselves,
they say, 'oh, that's the publisher's job.' I don't
feel that way at all. The best way to ensure I'd
do the work necessary to succeed was to take the
responsibility myself.
JR -- Do substances like caffeine and nicotine have
anything to do with this work ethic?
WHEELER -- They're addictive. They're fun.
JR -- Do you drink coffee when you draw the TMCM?
WHEELER -- If I didn't would I tell you?
JR -- Fair enough. What’s your take on the current
coffee craze? You’ve encapsulated it very well in
your comics, but what would you say about it divorced
of irony and satire?
WHEELER -- I hate things that are trendy. It's fashionable
to hate trends. I guess that means I hate myself.
I don't understand why coffee is a trend. Nothing
has changed in Berkeley. Coffee was popular before.
Coffee is still popular. I think the rest of the
country is just catching up.
JR -- You lived in Berkeley, then in Austin and
then moved back to Berkeley recently. How much do
you feel that your comic is a product of these various
environments?
WHEELER -- These places have totally influenced
my comic. I grew up in Berkeley so I thought the
world was like that. Anti-establishment is the establishment
here. There are more communists in Berkeley than
there are in the remaining communist countries.
And everyone is so damn educated. The guy who serves
you beer speaks four languages and two of them are
dead languages. People correct the spelling on graffiti
in this place. Educated and crazy. I look at my
comic, and my ideas, as being pretty normal. I'm
glad other people think that I'm weird or at least
weird enough to buy my comic.
JR -- How much of the comic is autobiographical?
How do feel transforming these aspects of your life
into the comic book mode?
WHEELER -- Most of the comic is autobio. The feelings
are very real. When I wrote the piece about retail
workers and the dumb questions they're asked, I
was drawing from my real experiences working in
a video store. People always ask questions like,
'What's the one with Kevin Bacon and he's in the
desert.' And after awhile, you get so you’re like
[he snaps his fingers] 'Tremors!'
When I talk about a fear of death, I'm actually
talking about my own fear of death. But the cartoons
are slivers of my life. It's like cutting the mold
off the cheese. The cartoons are the mold and I've
got a lot of cheese on my brain left over.
Copyright © 1999 by Jeremy Russell
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